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Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Edward Ludlow Norris - Adele Irene Barthelme - marriage - 2 Jun 1897

Using the names of the mother and father from my grandfather's birth certificate, I was able to locate the marriage record for my great-grandparents. I'm going to attempt to post this image. If it disappears like the one from the previous post, I will have to discontinue posting until I can figure out why Blogger doesn't play nicely with Picasa.

New York, New York County, New York City Municipal Archives, Manhattan marriage certificate no. 1897-8401, "Edward Ludlow Norris & Adele Irene Barthelme,".


When I found this, I felt like I had hit paydirt. It had an age for my great-grandfather (26). It had the name of his father (Joseph S. Norris) and the name of his mother (Henrietta Chilson). It had a birthplace (Sullivan County, NY). It also had a great deal of information about my great-grandmother and her family, but that is a story for another day.

Using the information I had gathered about my great-grandfather, my next steps were:

  1. Find the death record for Edward Ludlow Norris in New York County, NY. My grandfather said that his father died when he was six, so I'll look for a death certificate in the 1905 - 1907 range, moving further out if needed.
  2. Find a birth record for Edward Ludlow Norris in approximately 1870 or 1871 in Sullivan County, NY.
  3. Find Edward, Joseph, and Henrietta Norris in the 1880 Federal Census for Sullivan or New York County, NY.
  4. Find Joseph and Henrietta Norris in the 1870 Federal Census for Sullivan County, NY. Based on his age, it was possible that Edward was alive then, but it wasn't certain. Since Edward was born in Sullivan County in 1870 or 1871, I figured it was likely his parents were married and living in Sullivan County in 1870.
  5. Find Joseph Norris and Henrietta Chilson in the 1860 Federal Census for Sullivan County, NY.
  6. Find Joseph Norris and Henrietta Chilson in the 1850 Federal Census for Sullivan County, NY.
  7. Find a death certificate for Joseph Norris in Sullivan or New York County, NY.
  8. Find a death certificate for Henrietta Norris in Sullivan or New York County, NY.
This marriage certificate is what got me hooked on genealogy. The thrill of the chase. Solving a puzzle. Analyzing the information gathered, and determining next steps. [NOTE: I added item #1 to the list on 21 Aug 2011 when I realized I'd left it off.]

Saturday, July 23, 2011

Frederick Henry Norris - birth 15 Aug 1900

The story begins with my maternal grandfather, Frederick Henry Norris. Grandpa was born on 15 Aug 1900 at 619 W. 48th St, New York, NY. His birth certificate was badly misspelled by the midwife who delivered him. "Frederick" was written like "Fridrich", and "Norris" looked like "Norres". He apparently had difficulties getting others (like the Social Security Administration) to accept his real name.


New York, New York County, Municipal Archives, New York City, Manhattan birth certificate no. 1900-32892, "Fridrich H Norris"



And the misspellings don't stop there. His mother's name is listed as "Adella A Norres", and her maiden name is "Bartolome". None of that is accurate, although it's close. His father's name was "Edward", though. I sincerely doubt my great-grandfather was a "pedler"; more likely, he was a peddlar.

I believe that the midwife (Anna Allemann) was German-speaking, and she spelled the names and words the way they sounded to her.

None of that matters, though. It was easy enough to find the marriage certificate for Grandpa's parents. And that's where the fun really began.

Beginning to blog about my brick walls

I've been considering blogging as a way to resolve my family history brick walls for several years. In fact, I created this blog in 2006 or 2007, I think. Unfortunately, family circumstances didn't permit me to spend time on blogging.

When time became available, I debated about the blog again. At that time, my concerns were more practical -- privacy. Since this impacts my brother and his family as well as me, I was concerned that I'd be "giving too much away" if I blogged about my grandparents.


Fast forward a few years, I've decided that talking about my grandparents isn't likely to cause irreparable harm. They're all deceased (as of 1997), and my parents are both deceased, too.

I've decided to concentrate on my mother's family. In particular, I'm going to try and work through the brick walls of her father's family. I've chosen this side of my family in part because I've worked them back the farthest, and in part because it's the only part of my family that allegedly arrived before the Revolution.